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Longform Podcast #144: Cheryl Strayed

Cheryl Strayed is the author of Wild and Tiny Beautiful Things.

“There's a long history, of women especially, saying 'Well, I just got lucky.' I didn't just get lucky. I worked my fucking ass off. And then I got lucky. And if I hadn't worked my ass off, I wouldn't have gotten lucky. You have to do the work. You always have to do the work.”

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Thanks to TinyLetter, Trunk Club, and </em>HP Matter</a> for sponsoring this week's episode.</p>